Convicted murderer Ramos denied new trial


Yakima Herald-Republic


YAKIMA, Wash. -- An appeals judge on Thursday rejected a request for a new trial from a man who pleaded guilty to killing an Outlook family when he was a teenager.

Joel Ramos, who was 14 at the time, was convicted in the stabbing and beating deaths of Michael and Lynn Skelton and their two young sons in March 1993. Along with 14-year-old Joel Gaitan, Ramos broke into the home at night and attacked the family.

Prosecutors have described the deaths as the worst homicide case in the history of Yakima County.

Ramos pleaded guilty to one count of first-degree murder and three counts of felony murder in connection with the underlying robbery. He was sentenced to 80 years.

Gaitan was convicted at trial and sentenced to four life terms.

Ramos appealed in 2006, arguing against the juvenile court’s decision to transfer the case to adult court and contending he should have been charged for only one count of murder in connection with the related robbery. In a separate petition, he argued that his appeal had been unfairly delayed, hindering his ability to challenge the conviction.

The three judges of the Spokane-based Division Three of the state Court of Appeals rejected all of the arguments. The justices wrote that Ramos had wrongly interpreted the statutes upon which he based his appeals and that the delay had not led to any bias, partly because he was not given a new trial.

-- Mark Morey



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Posted by peggysue at 10/13/09 04:07PM        Post ID#: #15056

Ramos should never see the light of day, for what he did to them people he murdered.

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Posted by mickey at 10/13/09 06:20PM        Post ID#: #15065

GOOD! what a scumbag. what the devil is wrong with people like this? they don't seem to realize later on the wrong they've done either. they just continue to make excuses and act like victems of something.disgusting.

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Posted by BacktoReality at 10/13/09 07:17PM        Post ID#: #15067

Can't wait till he takes his last breath of air and they bury his body in a common unmarked grave, then he gets to meet his maker who will sends him down for an eternity.

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Posted by ChrisR at 10/13/09 08:01PM        Post ID#: #15071

whats up with kids nowadays? my gosh he was 14 when he committed to horrid murders.

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Posted by lobo509 at 10/13/09 10:47PM        Post ID#: #15081

one of thoes boy is my bother. and he was just 14...look @ a 14 year old kid and tell ne if he's also capable of a murder of 4.. that family that got killed, their kids were my bother and me best friends.look for the truth.befor you past jugement...

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Posted by iHenry at 10/13/09 11:59PM        Post ID#: #15084

Should save the tax payers money and put a bullet in him! Anyone who thinks a 14 year old can't commit murder is in denial and is part of the problem. If you look at a number of gang shoots that have happened in Yakima and the age of the persons involved, you will see that a 14 year old is not only capable of murder, but willing to do it just to impress his friends.

Just today in the paper was a story about five juveniles who were in custody Tuesday after a 15-year-old was intentionally set on fire at a Deerfield Beach, Florida, apartment complex, police said over a $20.00 debt.

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Posted by sid515 at 10/14/09 01:16PM        Post ID#: #15179

He deserved the sentence he received, not one of the people he BRUTALLY murdered were able to defend themselves, so why should this individual get a second chance? None of the victims did!!!! I say put the needle in him and get it over with,
As for LOBO, please guy learn to spell before you try and convince me that a worthless piece of meat is anything but worthwhile in society. He would probably get out (if given the chance) and kill another innocent family. And yes when he meets our (Lord)maker, let him explain to our supreme being his actions.

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