Posted by Nick at 09/10/09 05:08AM        Post ID#: #12292

I believe another Tea Party is planned for the same date, beginning at 9 AM at the Millennium Plaza as well. Perhaps some people from that event will join this march, since the TP will be over at 11, then this is supposed to begin.

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Posted by wimp at 09/10/09 05:51AM        Post ID#: #12296

Nick

You're always right there as the voice of authority on any event concerning the police. I guess by saying this you are going to diagnose me with some sort of disorder.

This is a good event but why can't somebody from the city add extra details instead of all this "inside info" coming from you who then go on to pretend you are just a regular Yakima citizen.

Trolling the forums making sure there are no dissenting opinions, it's all so boring. I cant forget one of your statements "I have inside information regarding intelligience ".

We don't need you to give us "inside info", we just need you to know your place and quit bullying on these police things. As usual there you are again the first one on anything concerning the cops.

I'm sorry if you feel that this is a "personal attack" but I am quite sure there are other people out there that would like all of these comments to actually be free and open like they are supposed to be and you coming on indicating this "I have inside info" is very strange. Whoever gives you your "inside info" is even more pitiful than you.

And again this is a great event put on by this mother.

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Posted by sourdough at 09/10/09 06:54AM        Post ID#: #12300

All of Nick's comments point to a very troubled mind.

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Posted by wimp at 09/10/09 07:02AM        Post ID#: #12301

sourdough

He is very troubled. I've tried to get through to him, to no avail. If he would only call the crisis line perhaps he could be turned around and put on the path of reality.

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Posted by Starman at 09/10/09 07:35AM        Post ID#: #12309

The only thing Nick is suffering from is being impacted by what he speaks of(illegal immigration, violence etc?) IMO. Others here suffer from "denial" which is a coping strategy for people who can't handle reality. Look in the mirror and ask if you are minimizing to cope wimp? I doudt you are qualified to judge anyones mental state but like to project your own issues on to others, you to Sourdough.

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Posted by Legend at 09/10/09 08:26AM        Post ID#: #12316

Nick is ok. The one I worry about is countryvet.

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Posted by wimp at 09/10/09 08:27AM        Post ID#: #12317

Starman

If the only thing he commented on was illegals that would be Ok but no matter what the situation on the Chief, no matter how many officers bravely come forward he is always running his monotone "Hail to the Chief".

Now we have the captain. I notice you guys don't have the guts to say anything about him, wisely so.

The way the city comes out with abusive unethical"shrinks" to try to make these cops seem crazy it is only natural then when you and Nick and a few others begin attempting to make diagnosis of people with other opinions from yours that you would be suspected of working for Zais.

In addition, Nick has actually said he has inside info. That is coming right out and saying it and should be grounds for removing him from this forum.

The doctors who go into physchiatry are required to take a Hippocrates oath in which they take an oath to do no harm, but in Yakima they seem to be ignoring that, even going so far as to recruit uneducated, uninformed and possibly drug addicted individuals to attempt to drive someone nuts.

Zais PR compaign is failing miserably, and hopefully that will wipe that disgusting grin off that disappated face.

I would say at this point, that if you criticize Granato or Zais and one of you comes on and begins analyzing them that you are definely working from the city. It is just not a normal thing to be doing on a forum that is meant to be open to discussing these subjects and is way too similiar to what we have been reading about regarding these cops, in other words the same modus de operation. If Zais could just find people with a little higher IQ perhaps the disinformation campaign could have had a small chance of succeeding. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZais

ZZZZZZZ Zais and the serpent shall be enchained for
a thousand years oh my God, did I just quote the bible. That right there is grounds for the psuedo shrinks to lock me up. Once again I sit here frozen with paranoia. Will they get my IP address? Will my door get kicked in. Will it be a strong leg with a muscular thigh?
Or will it be a weak leg with a flacid thigh? Will it be Zais's leg. Can Zais kick in a door? Can we find out?
Does anybody else want to know?

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Posted by Home-school-Mama at 09/10/09 08:59AM        Post ID#: #12321

I believe that we are all unified in believing that gangs only hurt the community. Right?

Nick - your idea is a good one. Maybe more people participating in this event will send a message to the gangs that we don't want them in our town!

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Posted by sid515 at 09/10/09 09:05AM        Post ID#: #12322

WIMP,
For once i agree with you and admire the fact that you stuck to the point, instead of turning this into some "illegals" thing, and yes Nick needs to understand that this is Yakima and we all have a voice and know about whats going on without him pointing it out like we're in kidergarten.

My other point is, I grew up with this kid's (kid that died) dad, and i want his mom to show Yakima that he was not a gang-member or did not associate with them (gangs), these people are full of S**T...because the kid was associated and so are the rest of his family! So to cry a river and ask for sympathy after they are doing it, does not make sense.

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Posted by wimp at 09/10/09 09:15AM        Post ID#: #12324

Sid
You are right but when people lose a child, it's hard to imagine their pain. I don't know if they live on the east side but sometimes landlords storm right in their rental to check on housekeeping and so illegals let their kids run around till night, which would make it impossible for them to keep their kids out of gangs. I don't know if that applies.

I'm sorry, I've got this running thing with Nick and he's always saying I'm crazy and I was going to comment further on what I call the "Yakima machine", of which I think he is a part. I was actually going to make an explosive comment of my own regarding a medical diagnosis of a problem I found after interviewing approxiamately 89 people associated with this outfit. This occurs only in males. However, now that we have gotten down to the story of this forum it seems grossly and lewdly out of context.

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Posted by wimp at 09/10/09 10:18AM        Post ID#: #12333

Nick
well everything seems to have died down so here goes. You have repeatedly referred to me as insane. And when you get your feelings hurt you call your other superior ones in the "machine" and they leave blurbs saying "I need help." So you are medically diagnosing me, so I can do the same. All this kind of harrassment is in the pages of the cops complaining statements too of what they went threw. Which astounded me. So it is associated with the city with most fingers appearing to point to Zais and Granato.

I have butted heads for 14 years with these disgusting people that actually feel they are superior. There use many technics like stalking, wrecking your car, setting you up for an accident. However, in particular, the ones that use the phsycho babble form of harrassment, the males, and I am talking about interviewing about 60 people in particular of this directly.

Again, you have repeatedly, and your cronies analyzed me.
And you haven't been kicked off. I am not going to analyze you but I am going to tell you that out of 60 interviews regarding 23 males in the "Yakima machine", which is who is harrassing our policemen and women, out of the 23 males who repeatedly refer to physchiatric diagnosis to discredt others, such as Rummell and Brownsfield, each and every one of them has been completely and totally impotent which no medication gives even a glimpse of a tremor of hope.

Therefore from now on when you and your freaky friends start calling me nuts I'm not going to give it much attention, I'm just going to say I believe you are or will shortly become if continuing on this path 99.9% impotent. If you are allowed to harrass and intimidate other commentators others can come back with similiar tactics.


In addition, as for the females in the "machine" of which there are many they have to a fairly large percentage been involved in a large, very secretive group practising witchcraft which may explain the aforementioned male problem. However it is nowhere near 100 percent.

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Posted by Weasel at 09/10/09 11:14AM        Post ID#: #12343

"gangs"

The truth is hispanic gangs. Correct. I am sure it has nothing to do with the lack of enforcement of our immigrartion laws, right ?

Why is rob mckenna in town ? Is our "top law enforcement
offical" handing out driver licenses to illegal immigrants?


Keep drinking the kool-aid libs

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Posted by Weasel at 09/10/09 11:26AM        Post ID#: #12346

"gangs"

No chance of having an intelligent conversation when we
Can't use HONEST, TRUTHFUL, ACCURATE, FACTUAL words

why not just say people ? That is about as vague and ambiguous as you can get. yhr staff went to college
to use such words as "gang" . Get a refund

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Posted by wimp at 09/10/09 11:53AM        Post ID#: #12350

It's got something to do with EPIC. They get three thousand a month per kid for epic. They are all the first generation illegal because the man can live right there with his family and work and not one dime comes out of her check. They live openly as a family, but for a citizen
getting welfare it would be a felony to have a wage earner unreported. An illegal father does not exist for DSHS.
Watch on the first she gets her check and goes shopping, on the fifth she gets her food stamps and buys lots of food. She wants to go to work she gets fake ID and works under a different name. In the public schools a lot of them on welfare buy their children very expensive clothes. The regular working (mostly minimum wage) white people, or especially the white single mothers have their kids practically in rags. You don't see much of them because Child Protective rarely goes after an illegal and it seems the poor white kids get taken away right and left. It's like the reverse of Nazism, it's some sort of Hispanic supremecy. I'm talking really fancy clothes from parents on welfare. You notice those things and when you go into a 7 eleven and you know a citizen there and you know they live on just what she makes and her kids are dressed in hand me downs and they're barely paying the rent and their life is hard, really hard and then you get on the school bus and you see all these kids from the east side and you know their mom's on welfare, food stamps, and working under the table and their kids are all in the latest style, it just seems kinda strange. And I mean, the kids are nice, but the don't mix that much. Maybe cause their illegal and they are worried you'll findout. I mean, I speak Spanish and I lived over there and I know what I'm talking about. Why would Washington have such a policy? If the man is illegal it's OK for him to live with his kids and he doesn't pay a dime for support.

What if something happens to our economy? What if welfare or benefits to illegals gets cut? It could happen depending maybe on the value of the dollar or the health care thing? We are heavily, heavily dependent on welfare. EPIC=welfare, treatment for sex offender=welfare, drug treatment=welfare. People may not realize it, but with 80% of our students having illegal alien parents we would be drastically affected. You don't thinks it's that high? And don't try to talk to the local immigration guy either. A few years ago he was on the front page of the Hispanic newspaper like he's their hero.

This is the great economic legacy bestowed by Zais? We are in a precarious position. Even half at least of our rentals depend on a welfare check. Our huge speial ed system depends on MedCaid. Do we now have to pray for welfare to continue?

And what about a state policy that refuses to see an illegal alien father, siring a huge family, propped up on the porch in his rocking chair on Sunday morning leaning back reading the paper and enjoying his family for all appearances looking and acting like a successful citizen.
Yes, even the ones with the nice house they own, keeping a meticulous yard and having a good job. Watch on the 1st and on the fifth those are big shopping days for that family. Anybody that tells me I'm lying is wrong.

It's as if someone here in Yakima is purposely stoking some sort of huge racial confrontation. Ane then the really poor, really hard working white people with their kids (if they still have them) turn into hard core Nazis, which is in a way just as disgusting.

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Posted by sid515 at 09/10/09 12:40PM        Post ID#: #12358

WIMP,
Do you not have anything else to say? Like i said earlier, stick to the point man! This article is about a march for anti-gangs, and damm you have a big chip on your shoulder. I too don't agree with the welfare system, but i don't spend my time on a school bus (which by the way if your not a student or school official, you shouldn't be on that bus) looking at what kids are wearing (that's kinda weird too).

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Posted by wimp at 09/10/09 01:54PM        Post ID#: #12369

calm down Sid
I was responding to weasel. I don't have a chip on my shoulder, it's about something a citizen would go to prison for but a non citizen can openly exploit. I'm not the only one getting off the subject.

And I don't get on a school bus. Most kids from the east side ride the city bus and I have a daughter and buying school clothes is a big deal at the beginning of the year. You see the mothers who don't work or speak English outfitting their girl expensively and the one's that do work not having been able to get their daughters anything for three years. If you are a mother you want your child to fit in and that doesn't make you a perve if you notice their clothes. I don't have a chip, it's reality. And on the side of the Hispanics, when this gang issue comes up I always mention that I knew Hispanic women that don't let their kids into the house until late at night because the darn fool landlord barges in whenever he pleases and they can't keep it perfect with the kids in. That is believe it or not a common thing on the eastside. I know most educated people simply would not believe that happens, but it does.

Also, this is a very blatant ridiculous issue here. People on welfare getting to have the father work and live right there is disgusting in every way shape and for. It's unAmerican, it just is. I think that the people who think it's OK are the people who are now employed, let's see, who do we have that's dependent on welfare? How about:
EPIC employees, including epic shrinks (what two year old needs a shrink?)
Sex offender conselors (a lot of offenders get Medicaid)
Special ed employees (even if a child can't speak English, that qualifies them for Special Ed and then the school gets three times as much money

And I don't know if you live on the east side or west, but there is something called a block grant for housing that's supposed to go to the West side to. Somehow nobody from the West side finds out about it and if you go to their meetings you have female politicians there (Republican, too) and they get up and give a speech and they repeat over and over; OUR BIRTH RATE OUR BIRTH RATE Indicating that this is something to be extremely proud of (now they are representing impoverished areas, mind you).

Now that's disgusting! It's like a war cry to all the men and women who do things right and plan their life. The head of our Hispanic chamber of commerce once said on TV, "Watch out Yakima, soon we'll have the vote! OUR BIRTH RATE OUR BIRTH RATE BLAH BLAH BLAH (She actually went on about the birth rate. Why don't they admit who they worship and emblazen a sheila na gig right on their foreheads?

Now if that isn't some sort of idiotic war cry, I don't know what is. The people who have the jobs in these areas, I can sympathize when you get worried your job will be cut out. But if you are physchoanalysing a two year old, do you actually think you are productive?

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Posted by Nick at 09/10/09 01:57PM        Post ID#: #12370

Wimp - On one, and only one, point, we can agree. That is your scenario regarding the family of illegals on welfare and the way they defraud the system. You forgot to mention the Cadillac Escalade the wife, (or whatever) is driving around as well, or the Mercedes.

You also didn't mention the fact that most of the illegals will send the majority of their slave-=wage paychecks out of the country, to be spent there, and then make their welfare claims against us.

I am also suspicious that you know these things from personal experience. Otherwise, why would you have such a rage for the police department or who supports them, and anyone who states the facts about illegals and that they should all be deported forthwith?

I said it before - you don't know me from Adam, or anything about me. Your guesses are completely in left field.

I said this before as well, I firmly believe you are a sick person. Reading your wandering, rage-filled comments is almost too much to keep track of. If that nonsensical diatribe truly spills from your mind, it must do so without further than a fleeting thought.

Meanwhile, following sid's advice, and back on point, it would be a GOOD thing to have a successful march to promote anti-gang sentiments, and to help organize community interest in fighting this scourge. I plan to be there - do you, Wimp?

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Posted by sid515 at 09/10/09 02:21PM        Post ID#: #12375

DAMM...it sounds like you two have issues....hahahhahahahhahahhahahahha

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Posted by Legend at 09/10/09 02:30PM        Post ID#: #12376

I have no idea what wimp was trying to get across. You need to learn how to articulate your thoughts wimp. Your little rant reminded me of a famous mexican comedian. He would talk for 5 minutes non-stop in perfectly clear spanish, and you thought you understood what he was saying, but at the end of his dialogue, you'd be thinking, "what?"

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Posted by seriously at 09/10/09 03:52PM        Post ID#: #12393

I think everyone here is a little off kilter.

Sid,
At the risk of being threatened again, I'll ask why you are so quick to bash anyone voicing a concern about illegals. Granted, it's not the only issue we all deal with on a daily basis and not every gang member is or comes from illegals, but the entire situation of illegal immigration has been and will continue to be a major factor in most of the issues facing the average American.

On the subject of the article,
My heart goes out to this mother. No parent should ever have to suffer the loss of a child. That her loss is due to senseless, chicken-hearted violence of a group of cowards makes it even worse.

It's nice to see the participation of local politicians.

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Posted by mugsy at 09/10/09 05:26PM        Post ID#: #12414

Sid,
You may know this young man's father and family, but you obviously do not know his mother who raised him alone and then with her husband since his was an infant. They are hard working, law abiding, productive members of our community. She was and still is an involved and attentive parent. She was always actively involved in his life before his murder and as you can see, after his murder.
If you can positively say that he was a gang member, then you have information that the police, his family, and others do not have. Maybe you should contact the detective working on this murder investigation to give him this info. If you don't really know this, maybe you should not post this S**T!!!!!!
People of Yakima please participate in this event. It is very important that we come together as a community. WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER. I want a safer community for all of us, Don't you?
Most young people that attend school in Yakima and the surrounding area know gang members. They sit in front,behind,or next to them at school, on the bus, or at an event or maybe at a party. So don't be in denial about this issue. We really don't know who might be next. Mo's family didn't ask for this.

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Posted by wimp at 09/10/09 09:08PM        Post ID#: #12437

Legend, the only thing I was trying to get across in that in the state of Washington they are not defrauding the system, it is legal for the mother to receive welfare and tthe father can openly live there and work because he is invisible to the system and does not exist because he is illegal. Not a dime comes out of his check for his kids. It is a simple matter to check this out with DSHS, that's what's so shocking. Any other woman would go to prison.

In other words it is not crime for a wage earner to be sitting and living in a home of someone drawing full welfare and foodstamps in Washington. His check does not exist either.

And this is off subject but I am refering to someone who is constantly harrassing me

NICK

IT IS A FELONY IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON TO IN ANY
WAY PRESENT YOURSELF AS A PHYSCHOLOGIST, PHYSCHIATRIST,
AND OR COUSELOR. BY ATTEMPTING TO MAKE DIAGNOSIS
YOU ARE COMMITTING A FELONY----DUH DUFIS

Anyway, I notice you get really stoked up when I make references to all the pedophiles getting treatment here in Yakima. Why does this issue bother you? I feel like saying you are really sick and no one should let their kids around you but I have too much class to say that whenever I stumble across you. And I never run down the cops, that's a filthy lie. All I do is run down Granato and Zais because they have opened our town to all these freakin pedophiles who come here for treatment. And you, dear sir, are seriously creepy like as creepy as a
peddo duh pedoph duh, I guess what I am saying is that you are as creepy as a pedophile. They are all over the east side and I've has some of them for neighbors. They ALL seem to think the are professinal physchologists and they are so mentally ill they think they are CPS agents, too. You just gotta get their name and call their probie and they crawl back in their hole. I mean their creepy, but I gotta tell you man, you creepier. I don't wanna hurt your feelings, but somebody's gotta tell you. Are you getting coached by some unethical shrink? Is he or she so stupid that they don't realize it's against the law for you to chase me all across the internet and continually repeat in an idiotic ad naseum monotone of how much I need help? Do you think anybody cares. Do you think using one of your other screen names then in a ridiculous attempt to make it appear I'm unpopular is really gonna wash? You and your disgusting neo nazi club are repulsive. I am not trying to be a racist I am only poiinting out that all over the country what is going on here openly is grounds to go to prison. To treat people that differently is stoking up a race riot and you dorky neo nazis seem to just love it. Neo Nazis are filth. A woman drawing full welfare and food stamps can not have a wage earner living in the house. All over Yakima these "families" the woman is drawing full welfare and full food stamps and men who are working are living with them but the state says they don't have to prosecute because according to them these men do not exist because they are illegal. Well, I had one of these "men who do not exist" living right next door and he was a sex offender. I can tell the state that he certainly existed for me. And I can't believe that I had to chew the head of immigration out just to get his butt over pronto and make Mr. Invisible really go away. It doesn't take a great genius to see that bizarre state policies is going to cause major problems in a community. Also, there is the strange policy made by the State Superintendant of Public Schools who says it is OK for convicted sex offenders to hang out in the drug addict drop in center where toddlers are being babysat by 80 old year women on the "grandma program". That's at the downtown treatment center where if you check on the internet map is where they all live.

We want our town back. We want Captain Light as our chief.
We want double talking weirdos like you to get out of the way. If you are not actually a real pervert Nick then you are some sort of closet perve. You are truthfully the most disgusting prson I've run into on the whole internet.

Or maybe you low brain neo nazis don't want it to end. After all then you wouldn't have anybody to shake down for a payoff or treat like a slave and look down on with a disgusting sneer. After all, if you didn't have someone to look down your snotty white trash nose on what would life be for you?

If you refer to me as a nut case again when I make references to all the pedophiles in this town I am going to have you prosecuted. You are a disgusting bully and your so pathetically caught up in your superiority complex you definetly need to be stopped. And if you think your clowny hero Sam Granato is not going down then your nuts. The head Federal Judge that threw Brownsfield's lawsuit out has already been demoted. Ask yourself, if Sam Granato, the poor fool, had any power do you think I could get away with running him down constantly and making a fool of him every chance I get? Would a real police chief put up with that? They would at least make a home visit. He's not a real police chief, he never was. duh Now's the time to switch to one of your other screen names to try to make me feel unpopular and sign off crying. Hurry hah hah hah hah hah


Here let me tell you what to say

WIMP I am seriously worried about you, you don't make any sense. You really need help. Please go get help. hah hah hah haha ha hah hha

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Posted by gramma at 09/11/09 08:10AM        Post ID#: #12467

Would it ever be possible for wimp to say anything positive about anything? Seems very doubtful, because...no matter what the subject...all his words drip with venom.

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Posted by topp1993 at 09/11/09 08:27AM        Post ID#: #12472

march all the gangsters to jail, that'll work better

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Posted by sid515 at 09/11/09 09:41AM        Post ID#: #12480

Yes MUGSY,
The mother and step-father might have tried everything, but remember you can't be next to your child 24/7...the only thing i am saying and i hate is that after the fact of the crime, people start crying foul play! it's unfortunate that it happend, but it happens everyday to others and when it hits home that's the only time we pay attention....AND NO I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THIS...read my statement brainiac. I simply find it funny how now the family wants to bring attention to this matter, how bout before when the child was hanging with some maybe not too good people.

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Posted by sid515 at 09/11/09 09:43AM        Post ID#: #12481

WIMP,

Please lighten up man. The world is not that bad if you just try to live and not fix everything around you....remember my previous words "the world is full of different people, not just you".

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Posted by wimp at 09/11/09 10:42AM        Post ID#: #12486

sid and gramma

You are both wrong, I stick up very vehemently for our men and women on our police force, they are our heroes just as much as our 9-11 heroes, but they also excell in extreme endurance suffering for years under our little fat boy chief. They are the ones who are protecting us so we can say what we want. I only get upset because Nick and his other screen names is so blatantly a PR mouthpiece for the chief. He and Eloy are now on another blog actually trying to say they think I will get arrested. They are lost in the delusions of their own grandeur. And now Nick is actually saying he's this goofy deputy chief's buddy. Couldn't the deputy have been smart enought to tell him to keep his garbage mouth shut? duhhhhh Fortunately, I have screen captures of his bizarro, threatening, and annoying statements. To bad for the deputy, I think he is going to be put in a position to have to say that his buddy Nick is nuts, regardless of Nick's opinion that everybody else is.
It probably seemed that I was speaking out against our Hispanic community and I apologize for that. I beleve Yakima is not giving them a fair chance to legalize and others like Nick are stoking up a race riot. It really doesn't matter if they are drawing welfare and working because as soon as they own anything nice , they get deported. I think that's why Nick gets mad when they send their money home.

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