Posted by Nick at 07/02/09 06:59AM        Post ID#: #6239

Messing around in some alternative lifestyles seems to be asking for trouble. Whenever moral/social guidelines are disregarded, lines tend to be crossed in many behavioral arenas.

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Posted by YakRob at 07/02/09 07:51AM        Post ID#: #6244

"Messing around in some alternative lifestyles seems to be asking for trouble. Whenever moral/social guidelines are disregarded, lines tend to be crossed in many behavioral arenas."

How many incidents such as this have been reported in Yakima within the past two years? Now, how many violent crimes have been reported involving straight people? Are you really suggesting that all violent crime is the result of alternative lifestyles? Are you suggesting that those in alternative lifestyles are more apt to commit violent crime? Could you also explain the moral/social guidelines you are talking about that apply to alternative lifestyles exclusively? From my vantage point, the majority of crimes committed in this country are committed by straight people - things such as rape, child abuse and molestation, murder, gang activity, domestic violence - to name a few. Could it be that violent crime is based on some human deficit rather than whether you're gay or not. Your statement is ridiculous and divisive. If you really don't think so, I would like some facts and statistics presented that support your views. Get this though, as long as you throw out these biased, bigoted statements I will continue to ask you to support them with facts and research. Without that - one can only conclude that you have an obvious agenda that has no basis in TRUTH or FACT. What kind of reality do you live in anyway? Yikes.

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Posted by Jay at 07/02/09 08:48AM        Post ID#: #6248

Nick- you have no clue what you are talking about. The problem is who one loved, but drug addiction and what it can do to you. You are such a fan of the YPD- but do you know there are people with 'alternative lifestyles" who work there too? People in a long term relationship obviously had issues and it is sad that one is now dead-if you read all of the articles you would know that the victim suffered from a long term illness and was not able to work. No excuse for what happened, but many many things lead up to the murder. I pray that Ms Johnson can find forgiveness and that Ms. Walshs friends and family can find some peace.

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Posted by Nick at 07/02/09 12:54PM        Post ID#: #6259

Actually, both of you are taking me out of context. I have absolutely NO PROBLEM with gay people. However, Rob, to answer your facetious and off-the-cuff question regarding statistics of incidents of violence: MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT GAY, AND THEREFORE, HIGHER NUMBERS OF CRIMES IS A NORMAL SITUATION. YOUR QUESTIONS IS MOOT.

To Jay, alternative lifestyles aren't exclusive of gays, but also include DRUGGIES, who are highly at risk for any number of problems. Pray away - for them all. Just look at our street corners for the panhandlers.

I actually know and am friends with quite a number of gay people - at YPD, and in many other walks - and no, I'm not gay. When I'm friends with them, it means I LIKE them.

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Posted by kbatku at 07/02/09 08:30PM        Post ID#: #6279

Gay folks are pretty much like everyone else - even when it comes to the bad stuff.

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Posted by YakRob at 07/02/09 09:45PM        Post ID#: #6281

Nick - how can I take you out of context when I copied your whole statement? I'm glad you augmented it though - I still am not sure what you mean by "alternative lifestyles". There are people out there who are not on drugs and not gay committing violent crimes It seems to me we're talking about humans with some deficit(s) of character or morals or respect for life. Also, I do not consider gay people and druggies alike, putting aside universal human commonality for a moment - equating gay and druggie in the same "lifestyle" category is unacceptable. Perhaps we could put druggies in another category like the unhappy and unhealthy category. But then, we would have to define druggie.

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