Posted by Nick at 06/25/09 03:12PM        Post ID#: #5847

And why are we giving her the BOTTOM of the range? It might be different if she had even TRIED to restrain her 3 yr-old. All too often, I see many people, mostly immigrants, driving around while their kids are jumping on the seats or standing on the floors.

There are no mitigating circumstance that I can think of that would warrant her anything but the stiffest sentence. That's what we get with liberal judges who rule with their feelings. We should all remember this at election time.

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Posted by isitfriday at 06/25/09 03:50PM        Post ID#: #5852

Nick- How you do visually identify immigrants? Do they wear a shirt that says "IMMIGRANT" on it or does their vehicle have a big immigrant sign on top like student drivers...or are you just stereotyping people based on what I have to assume would be race?

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Posted by wshsndrms at 06/25/09 03:59PM        Post ID#: #5854

OMG nick enough with all the immigrant stuff. I bet if the world ended tomorrow you would blame it on hispanics too. Although it angers me that this mother got a slap on the hand for her child's death there isn't much any of us can do. The justice system is a joke...trust me i know from experience. Try having a family member murdered and having to deal with the so called justice system. Way too frustrating.

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Posted by knowyourstuff at 06/25/09 04:58PM        Post ID#: #5861

This ignorant @#$% always has a smart comment to post...isitfriday, my point exactly, how in the world can someone determine that they are immigrants, that in it of itself is discrimination. This guy can't seem to see beyond his own skin color...

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Posted by Nick at 06/26/09 06:21AM        Post ID#: #5886

Can't seem to make you people happy, no matter what I say, so I will clarify for you.

Most native-born Libs, to make sure they are politically correct, refer to Hispanics as "Immigrants" since, for some reason, they are embarrassed or think it is wrong to describe a person by their race. I was just being politically sensitive, to make you elitists feel better.

The vast majority of Hispanics who live here are, in fact, not born in this country, so that makes them "Immigrants". To be COMPLETELY correct for you, I should define between "Immigrants", the correct designation of foreign people who come here LEGALLY; Or illegal aliens, who come her by sneaking across our borders and obtaining false documents, (a felony). There IS a difference, according to our Federal government as stated in our immigration laws - read them - it might help you who choose to remain ignorant.

The comment I made was referring to mostly young Hispanic mothers, who make up the vast majority of those driving around with their kids unrestrained, in this city.

The fact that they are Hispanics is very easy to see. I can recognize an Hispanic when I see one. I grew up here, among Hispanics, ever since I was a little kid, I hung out with and later, did business with many Hispanics. Our local population is now over 40% Hispanics. I live in a neighborhood that is about 95% Hispanic. I don't need a T-shirt to be able to tell if a person is an Hispanic or not.

And "knowyourstuff", you are stereotyping. MANY Hispanics are not brown, as you refer to the color of their skin. Many are white. It seems, according to academic sources, (do you above know what "academic" means?) The White Hispanics, of which there are many, are descendants of the "Conquistadores" from SPAIN. The brown Hispanics descend from the various native races that were populating Mexico and South & Central America at the time of the invasion by the WHITE Conquistadores, who eventually conquered them and gave them much of their current language.

Is it discriminatory or just politically incorrect to some of you, to describe a person by a person's appearance? When you give a description to the police, part of that description, along with hair & eye color, clothing style, and marks or tattoos, is their RACE, unless you put it in this newspaper, where they seldom consider it of any importance to aid in recognition.

What is wrong with you "progressives" that your word police are running around criticizing anyone for simply stating a fact? Get off you high-horses and get real.

I have absolutely nothing against Hispanics, or any other race of people. However, I DO have a problem with law-breakers, whatever their race or wherever they come from or live.

The fact is that this young mother broke the law and her child died because of her reckless behavior or bad choices.

For years, I have driven around town and noticed that, among the Hispanic population, more than any other demographic, many do NOT RESTRAIN THEIR CHILDREN. Whatever the reason, I don't care. They need to restrain their kids - period. I don't see nearly as many mothers from other races NOT restraining their kids. That is an observed fact.

So I Say, two things: Get a car seat for your kids and save their lives, and get a life yourself.

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Posted by gviewman at 06/26/09 07:21AM        Post ID#: #5889

It makes sense that an immigrant (i.e. a person that comes to a country to take up permanent residence) would not know the laws and have their children jumping around in the car. Sorry, but alot of people out there are unaware of the laws because they have been in this country a short time. There are alot of hypersensitive people out there and take offense to the very mention of "hispanic immigrant". Sorry, but I don't care if this gal is Russian, she should have got more time.

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Posted by Nick at 06/26/09 02:29PM        Post ID#: #5947

My original point exactly, but said in a perhaps, better way, gviewman.

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Posted by knowyourstuff at 06/28/09 12:43AM        Post ID#: #6046

NICK, FIRST LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF WHITE/HISPANICS OUT THERE. YOU DON'T NEED TO GO IN DEPTH TELLING ME ABOUT MY ANCESTORS HISTORY. I KNOW HOW WE ORIGINATED.

SECOND, WHEN YOU USE THE WORD "IMMIGRANT" IN A SENTENCE TO DESCRIBE A CLASS OF PEOPLE OR RACE, IT'S DISCRIMINATING WHEN IN FACT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THEIR CURRENT STATUS IN THIS COUNTRY.

THIRD, I HAVE TO HAND IT TO YOU, YOU MAKE SOME GOOD POINTS, AND WHEN I READ SOMETHING THAT I AGREE WITH, I WILL GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR IT.

FINALLY, ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT FOR YOU TO AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THAT A PERSON THAT IS EITHER A WHITE/BROWN HISPANIC DRIVING A VEHICLE WITH KIDS UNRESTRAINED THAT THEY ARE IMMIGRANTS.

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